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My C10 is Bent! Let's Fix it with A Better Way to Bend and Notch Tubing! Finnegan's Garage Ep.129 

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For years Newbern and I have struggled to build rollcages without wasting a lot of time and tubing. Well, thanks to the recent purchase of some innovative tools and a few tips from a fellow FIplacer, we just leveled-up our cage game! In this video we'll demonstrate how to use the tool kit from
Centurial Tools www.centurialinc.com/tube-coping-tools
as we finish up the cage on my 1967 Chevrolet C10 sport truck. This is the truck with the 650hp supercharged Chevrolet Performance LT4 crate engine, the 6xdgearbox.com billet aluminum sequential manual transmission, the independent rear suspension, Forgeline 20-inch wheels and Mittler Bros hydraulically adjustable Hydroshox!
Want more tips from The Fabrication Series? Go here: fiplace.info/number/cxlBLmujrjTVSSUkzZ2Jlg
Here's where I got my JMR hydraulic bender dies from:
www.trick-tools.com/search/go?w=jmr%20bender
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Thanks for watching!
-Finnegan

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ROVER25X
ROVER25X 10 tuntia sitten
Seems like you boys need to watch Project Binky for inspiration lol.
RT Norland
RT Norland 11 tuntia sitten
Nothing but good stuff Finn and Newbern!
Lance Ward
Lance Ward 15 tuntia sitten
Very good episode with tons of useful info!
David vonAnderseck
David vonAnderseck Päivä sitten
What about the catty
StumpyBuilt
StumpyBuilt Päivä sitten
Check out hoovies garage they put a prius elec motor on the steering shaft for a manual rack.
Ryan Rask
Ryan Rask Päivä sitten
What is the work light you use?
tim joris de vries
tim joris de vries 2 päivää sitten
For finding the centre of a tube i use a piece of angle iron. Just put on top and draw a line.
Tucker Amidon
Tucker Amidon 2 päivää sitten
GoPro fisheye @24:11 makes you boys look swole! (Or hunchback.)
Ross Purdy
Ross Purdy 2 päivää sitten
Hey gang! Awesome build, love your stuff. Just wanted to reach out real quick with a little additional science for ya. When you're talking about the chlorinated brake clean you're absolutely correct about it transforming into phosgene gas. First off the stuff is neurotoxic which means the poisoning occurs in the brain and it's incredibly nasty and lethal. One whiff of the stuff is enough to kill an adult human. The actual transformation of the chlorine to the phosgene is why I wanted to write all this. You mentioned that it's when it's superheated and that's not quite accurate. What triggers the transformation is the UV light that the arc gives off. If you were gas welding for instance, you would still have the heat to melt the steel pipe, but not the intensity of the UV and I don't believe the transformation would occur. I wouldn't take the chance however. I read in a welding journal (journeyman welder here) about someone welding over a tiny puddle of brake clean (think rust pit size) and getting a funny smell for a split second. By that evening he had a blinding headache, he was vomiting uncontrollably and couldn't maintain a coherent thought train. His wife called the ambulance and he made it, but he suffers from memory issues, coordination deterioration and other nasty symptoms. So you were exactly correct, be super careful when using it, that you get the non-chlorinated version. CRC makes a really good one, because the chlorinated cans are red, and the non-chlorinated ones are green. Hope this helps! Stay safe!
Jarod Emahizer
Jarod Emahizer 2 päivää sitten
great work! a suggestion for next time: @23:39 when you are trying to calculate the height needed. Next time, try leaving the tube in place on top of the quick disconnect as it already was. You know the laser is in the center of the tube, take a measurement vertically from where the laser is to the center of your attachment panel on the truck, and that should be your distance needed in the tube to raise it high enough to connect the two properly. Since the tube is already at 90* (parallel to the chassis) and your quick disconnect was installed at 90* (perpendicular to the chassis) the only variable you have to solve for at that point is the needed height between the laser's dot and the center on your attachment pannel on the firewall. Seriously love, not trying to armchair engineering just thought it might save you some time in the future.
scott stanley
scott stanley 2 päivää sitten
Super video! I applauded for $2.00 👏
aXBlackDeathXa
aXBlackDeathXa 2 päivää sitten
Mike I'd highly recommend looking into a universal electric steering rack. Not only can you adjust a setup like this to be more or less responsive with the turn of a knob but it also gives you power steering with just battery power - the vehicle doesn't have to be running! Check out a company called Turn One Steering or American Powertrain sells a kit now as well. Just throw a manual rack in there - add the power assist box - use any column you want BAM!
Robert Chaffee
Robert Chaffee 2 päivää sitten
I like all the new fab tools you got and used on this project. keep up the great work.
batbat1156
batbat1156 2 päivää sitten
Great video i learn a lot.
John Gray
John Gray 2 päivää sitten
Worm Man
Kris.Ivanovv
Kris.Ivanovv 2 päivää sitten
Mike, you can use VOLVO 2004-2013 Volvo C70 C30 S40 electric power stearing pump. It is compact and work super.
KSR Performance & Fabrication
Hey Mike, when you are completing the last weld on a tube that "caps" the pipe, you now have expanding air rushing through the hole that you are welding up as the tube is heating up and the air inside of the tube is expanding and looking for a place to get out! To prevent this, drill a hole in your plate that will pass into the center of the tube. This is also good practice for roll cages. Drill a small hole in the tube that you are landing your next tube to, but do it so that the hole will be covered by the new tube that you are now welding to the project.
KSR Performance & Fabrication
Doh, just read the other commenters saying the same thing and you mentioning the vent hole. You are probably right about there being oil inside of the tube. Doesn't take much to make a nice weld turn ugly!
Vailos Quiet
Vailos Quiet 3 päivää sitten
use a late 2000s mr2 eletric pump from the mr2 spider
camaross92
camaross92 3 päivää sitten
Could do some sheet metal inner fenders off the bars to the frame rail, maybe with some zeus clips lol. or dimple die some trusses for the 90°s.
Jim Henline
Jim Henline 3 päivää sitten
Get yourself a lady that loves the smell of brakleen.
Centurial Inc
Centurial Inc 3 päivää sitten
Thanks for showing our tools. Good work gentlemen.
Skubasteve21
Skubasteve21 3 päivää sitten
Couldn't you measure from the laser point/dot to the center point of the fish plate? Instead of trying to hold the piece up and level and take a measurement.
lewis abbott
lewis abbott 3 päivää sitten
If your struggling for room or aftermarket options. You can get a electric power steering which goes on the steering column which maybe an idea for you.
Pana Giotis
Pana Giotis 3 päivää sitten
You boys need a Tapeboss!
Night Rider
Night Rider 4 päivää sitten
Look at Cooper Bugatti 240 hydraulic power steering set up don't know if it's something you would be interested in
ltseven
ltseven 4 päivää sitten
You kids do nice work
Jwy2063
Jwy2063 4 päivää sitten
Gadget tools that actually work is awesome, good info 👍🏻,,, But with my 20 plus yrs of off-road cage, bumpers, rock sliders, etc fabing, another cool DIY tool is a 4'x3/8" break line, you can bend it to fit Many times over for exact angles and length (up to 4' , need longer get longer) ! Had to give my "2cents",,, AND YOU GUY ARE AWESOME 😎 LV THE CHANNEL !! AND at 12:03 GIT YA SAFETY GLASSES ON !!
Steven Paraone
Steven Paraone 4 päivää sitten
About time Letz Goo
Dead End Garage
Dead End Garage 4 päivää sitten
Check out electric power steering from a Prius. The motor is under dash out of sight.
B Doyle
B Doyle 4 päivää sitten
Look into late model mopar stuff for power steering, I worked on a 2012 challenger 5.7 that had an electric power steering pump, it still takes fluid but its electric over hydraulic
pgf202
pgf202 4 päivää sitten
MR2's, Volvos, and possibly a newer Mini have power steering pumps that are driven with a motor so you can keep the rack the way it is and mount the pump where ever you want. My Race Shop LLC makes a programable controller for the MR2 pump if you go that route.
Dan L
Dan L 4 päivää sitten
Now take and scratch those marks permanently into that cheater pipe for when the marker rubs off.
Cody Thomforde
Cody Thomforde 4 päivää sitten
Toyota mr 2 has electric power steering that’s easy to modify
herculesrockafeller
herculesrockafeller 4 päivää sitten
The Car Wizard did electric power steering from a Prius in Hoovie’s ‘GT 350’
JFK64 Kennedy
JFK64 Kennedy 4 päivää sitten
quick way to find tube centerline, take combination sq, set blade of square to oa pipe diameter, yes diameter...put cast part of sq on top of pipe, blade down side, get blade end flat against table, flat surface and pull square down pipe, pushing blade hard against pipe, the blade will scratch pipe in center, and if need, can also mark top, exactly perpendicular, 90 deg. from 1st line
BMC Turbo and Fab
BMC Turbo and Fab 4 päivää sitten
23:30 mark, just point the laser to the centerline on the firewall and measure the distance to your target. You won’t have to try and hold the tube level and measure and keep it on target with the laser all at the same time 👍🏻
Zack Loftis
Zack Loftis 5 päivää sitten
MR2 power steering pump
Deck Ape
Deck Ape 5 päivää sitten
When I turned 50 I realized that I didn't know as much as I did when I was 25. I enjoy your explanations, they are on the line of "You have brains but maybe didn't know this."
Tyler Lewis
Tyler Lewis 5 päivää sitten
This was the exact video I was looking for, without looking for it.
mason shipman
mason shipman 5 päivää sitten
also, just do prius/saturn electric steering assist.
mason shipman
mason shipman 5 päivää sitten
come drive my volvo swapped datsun bullet side and then sponsor me thanks
Manny S
Manny S 5 päivää sitten
I was all-in on the C10...but I think I'm loving (& wanting more of) the Cadillac content! #FSM
mindwreckRC
mindwreckRC 5 päivää sitten
look up ford/volvo electric steering pump. you can remote mount it anywhere. used in a lot of different hot rods and swaps.
Jack Hoff
Jack Hoff 5 päivää sitten
The weld on the tube didn't loose argon coverage, it blew out. You crated a sealed chamber and heated it up. when you seal up a tube like that you need to drill a small hole to relive the pressure.
Andy Yarnell
Andy Yarnell 5 päivää sitten
Nice tube work
callthemall
callthemall 5 päivää sitten
Drinking game: drink every time Mike says bend.
Evan Lesinski
Evan Lesinski 5 päivää sitten
Another great channel is Bad Obsession Motorsport. They shoe horned a 4wd Toyota into a classic mini. They ended up using a electric over hydraulic Mercedes power steering pump.
dopesquatch
dopesquatch 5 päivää sitten
The laser cant just fit in the tube without the profile part?
Rob Roten
Rob Roten 5 päivää sitten
"Be really careful!" As he wipes down tubing with a rag soaked in acetone WITH HIS BARE HANDS!
steve goodwin
steve goodwin 5 päivää sitten
Friendly observation... Guys when Mike celebrated at the end of the video I noticed a much better stereo sound. Was that because the video was taken with a different device?
W J
W J 5 päivää sitten
Well, gr8 work guys and totally informative and simplified technical training for people who also have OCD to some degree!!! Oh, what's going on with the Cadillac?
JimPeachley
JimPeachley 5 päivää sitten
Could the struts be tilted out toward the fenders to create more clearance around the engine? Maybe you could loosely hose clamp a ruler to the mock-up bend so it could be slid out to measure the needed additional length.
CertifiedCarNut
CertifiedCarNut 5 päivää sitten
This truck is the US version of Binky...
DEATHSTROKE
DEATHSTROKE 5 päivää sitten
Newbern's a gem bro, look after that guy.
sas86toy
sas86toy 5 päivää sitten
Need a weep hole in tube to allow excess gases to escape that’s why it blows out where your trying to finish the weld..... I would of put on backside of that firewall plate where it’ll be covered 🤙🏼
sas86toy
sas86toy 5 päivää sitten
lol just seen that’s already been commented ... oops but drilling a #30 hole behind firewall plate would be a good spot.
CoRy35744
CoRy35744 5 päivää sitten
Holley makes an Accessory Drive System and Power Steering Add-On Kits for GM Gen V LT4's www.holley.com/products/engine/accessory_drive_brackets_and_kits/gm_gen_v_lt/
Shayne Gadsden
Shayne Gadsden 5 päivää sitten
with the power steering there are electric hydraulic options, instead of an engine drive hydraulic pump or electric power steer it's an electric power steer pump so the steering is still a hydraulic rack but the pump can just be mounted on the firewall or anywhere really the car i was looking at for here Australia was a 1998-2006 Holden Astra so i imagine a similar year GM compact hatch would have a similar unit
hq632
hq632 5 päivää sitten
In Australia it’s pretty popular to use a 1998 - 2008 Holden astra (not sure if GM sold them in US or not) power steering pump for conversions. they are an electric pump that can be plumbed into a hydraulic rack. Can also be remote mounted out of engine bay.
mk2vrt
mk2vrt 5 päivää sitten
Hey jackals you can weld a t I've completely closed without drilling a whole Also mr2 and valvo have electric power steering in the trunk
Shaun Hensley
Shaun Hensley 5 päivää sitten
Bro that's awesome watching you teach yourself tubing. I went through something similar with instrument tubing on my last major project and I know exactly your pain😂
Tim Johansson
Tim Johansson 5 päivää sitten
Hi Finnegan, Regarding your Power Steering trouble there are options. 1. Electric power steering. Use power steering rack and control unit from a Toyota Prius, easily installed and wired up. There's even a wire up on this at Hotrod Magazine website! Pros on using the Toyota electrical power steering is that they go in to failsafe mode with no CANBUS connected so they have a constant, fairly normal, power steering assist instead of variable with speed. GM units don't work AT ALL without CANBUS or a CANBUS simulator. 2. Electrical PS pump from a modern Volvo, like an S60 or similar. 12v supply and ground. That's it. Can be remote mounted.
Clayton Pereversoff
Clayton Pereversoff 6 päivää sitten
What is that orange lathe in the back round?
Rhys Sutherland
Rhys Sutherland 6 päivää sitten
12 volt Dave with the safety squint. Made my day
Zach Jenkins
Zach Jenkins 6 päivää sitten
hey guys. someone may have mentioned this already. It seems like instead of having Newbern hold that pipe up so that the laser shines on the crosshair for Finnegan to measure the base. Instead maybe you could just have left it in place then measured from the laser on the firewall up to the crosshair. just a thought in case next time you don't have any help around to assist. good video.
Farming - Firefighting and Fun with Big John
I've watched his videos! You can learn a bunch from him! Nice work guys! Thanks for sharing!
Brian Timothy
Brian Timothy 6 päivää sitten
So apparently the Toyota MR2 had an electric power steering pump, as in a electric pump that creates the hydraulic pressure for your hydraulic power steering. I guess drifters use them, at the 17 minute mark of this video they mount one and talk about it. fiplace.info/loft/videot/jI91fIOsp3jJoaA
Stonewall78
Stonewall78 6 päivää sitten
12:01 Whole wall of safety devices... just closes his eyes... #facepalm
James Fowler
James Fowler 6 päivää sitten
Awesome video
Steven Simmons
Steven Simmons 6 päivää sitten
Can watch this all day , but jobs and such.
Emmett Morrison
Emmett Morrison 6 päivää sitten
Hey Mike quick tip about when you were welding the tube to the sandwich plate and the tube kinda blew out, this is due to pressure build up in the sealed tube, i learned about this from Joel from Overkill Racing Chassis, if you drill a small hole in the tube this allows pressure to vent and not blow out your weld. When you are done just spot weld the tube back and noone will know
William Lord
William Lord 6 päivää sitten
You guys really need them kinda tools. Wow must me the exhaust fumes making them slow or something!
Henry Gillow-Wiles
Henry Gillow-Wiles 6 päivää sitten
Instead of the cheater tube, get some bending software. Bend-Tech EZ is pretty good.
Matt : Adulting
Matt : Adulting 6 päivää sitten
Acetone straight on the skin absorbs in quickly and attacks your liver. Use gloves
Random GearHead
Random GearHead 6 päivää sitten
Electric power steering form a Saturn Vue. Epas on eBay has kits. Super easy and can control how much assist it gives with turn of a dial! They did it on fasterproms miata
tom moon
tom moon 6 päivää sitten
Cotton kills the worm man! Wish I could move like that lol
Wompie
Wompie 6 päivää sitten
Congratulations on the weight loss Newburn. I noticed.
Stanley Zitello
Stanley Zitello 6 päivää sitten
Why did you place your end point for the front cage in the middle of nowhere on your frame? What is the primary load that the cage can support in that area of the frame? It is good for supporting a vertical load. What vertical load do you have in the front. Your springs. Why didn’t you brace the cage near the spring and damper mounting point of the front suspension?
Kyle Norman
Kyle Norman 6 päivää sitten
Toyota Prius Hoovie put one on hid 67 mustang restomod
Christopher Casale
Christopher Casale 6 päivää sitten
Volvo power steering pumps for the mid 2000s are electric hydraulic pumps, so you can use a hydraulic rack and put the pump wherever you want. Cooper Bogetti put one in his S13 drift car.
Dead Soul Walking
Dead Soul Walking 6 päivää sitten
Toyota MRS electric power steering pump
David Snow
David Snow 6 päivää sitten
Thanks for lesson on bending tube. Keep up the good work and stay safe out there.
Raphael Scully
Raphael Scully 6 päivää sitten
why dont you guys also watch tim mcamis for some welding tips on his channel at Tim McAmis Performance Parts and for alternator try a mechman alternator
Bebetek Racing
Bebetek Racing 6 päivää sitten
The weld blew out because u didn’t drill a hole in the flat metal..gas/ expansion needs a place to escape.always drill a small hole on all tubing intersecting each other..your roll cage must be vented.sounds dumb..and also.on your CHEATER TUBE.make a mark on the tube at the end of the die or wherever ur heart desires scribe it in so it’ll never disappear ,but ALWAYS go off of that mark..
Bebetek Racing
Bebetek Racing 6 päivää sitten
The tube is round lol.anywhere u draw the straight line is the center🤣..I look for the straight line by placing the tube in a c channel.run the sharpie across the line on c channel..usually dom mild steeltubing already has a line in it..really good info here .good job
Panhead49EL
Panhead49EL 6 päivää sitten
Re: Cheater bar. Are those inch marks still an inch apart after they bend is made? Or does the outside of the bend stretch and the inside compress? I gots to know.
Austyn Northcutt
Austyn Northcutt 6 päivää sitten
What if you used a 15+ Silverado electric steering
George Tinc
George Tinc 6 päivää sitten
Just a thought, we need to have Cotton kick you in the balls for what you did to that truck to start with.
aSinisterKiid
aSinisterKiid 6 päivää sitten
Lasers !!
T Nels
T Nels 6 päivää sitten
Mike, I have a K frame off a 12 Mustang GT/CS with an electric power steering rack you can have. I'm in Minnesota, figure out shipping and its yours!
Ryan Rich
Ryan Rich 6 päivää sitten
Irony: Using a chop saw while squinting, and there are safety glasses hanging on the wall 2 feet from your face or 2 inches from your hand when you grab the saw handle. Genious. Nah just kidding, I do the same shit. Hahahaha.
guido heeling
guido heeling 6 päivää sitten
volvo also makes electric power steering pumps, a lot of youtubers use them, pumps seem to be reliable and all, but is is for shure something different than mechanical pumps!
guido heeling
guido heeling 6 päivää sitten
The Fabrication Series is an awsome channel, he is like a freaking teacher!
Derek MacKenzie
Derek MacKenzie 6 päivää sitten
DOM tube does have a seam. look from the inside. its hard to see but its there
Ron Peters
Ron Peters 6 päivää sitten
Instead of holding the tube up so the laser points at the right spot on the firewall while making sure the angle is right, couldn't you have set the tube on the mount and measured from the laser dot on the firewall straight up to the target? It would seem more stable.
Taylor Peterson
Taylor Peterson 6 päivää sitten
Finnegan, i didnt read through the comments, but in case you did not know, us swapped Datsun guys have ran the electric power steering setup out of a pontiac G6. I believe someone even makes a kit. I dont know if it will work for you, but its definetly worth a look. The electric motor mounts on the column typically under the dashboard, so no space taken in your engine bay
Richard Harvey
Richard Harvey 6 päivää sitten
Love the videos . Hope your around for a long time.great job delubing your tube. 🤣
Jerry Inman
Jerry Inman 6 päivää sitten
Get in touch with stangkilr productions here on FIplace or call killer performance in grain valley, mo for getting the steering working, he just put that engine in his teal truck series.
Keith Adams
Keith Adams 6 päivää sitten
Kinda want to like the truck...but can't. Only flat bill, knee socks wearing bro's would
Jon Hill
Jon Hill 6 päivää sitten
Support 👍
JD Ray
JD Ray 6 päivää sitten
Check out the Volvo s40 electric power steering kit if you don't want to go hydraulic
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